Rolled Muddler
Tied by: Bill Trublubug Southeastern PA, US
Bill Trublubug

Bill Trublubug
11 months ago

Which do you prefer? I think I like the unadorned top version better.

This is one way to kill off an all day rain. Better than working on my never shortened “honey do” list. ?

Cory
11 months ago

Nice flies Bill, I'd say top or bottom the fish are gonna crush them.

Bill Trublubug
11 months ago

Thanks Cory. I’ve had much success in certain streams with anything tied in orange and brown.

Martin Burch @flyfishfans
11 months ago

I like eyes as an important strike inducer, so I’d say Bottom

Bill Trublubug
11 months ago

@685766380 Good point Martin. I’m not so sure about the cold water species but the warm water ones do seem to key in on eyes.

Jon Redwine
11 months ago

Great ties Bill! I like both, although around here eyes are just for me because I don’t think my fish care much. I sure like the looks of both of these!!

Bill Trublubug
11 months ago

Thanks @jredwine Appreciate your opinion as always. Your “eyes are just for me” comment is what actually prompted me to ask the question in the first place. Always curious about what others feel based on their experiences. On my cold waters, I see no difference between “eyed” and “no eyed” flies although I admit to never having tried to control the “experiment”. On warm waters, if the fly is fished subsurface, I am convinced the eyes do provide a strike trigger. Eyes on poppers, frogs, mice etc. aren’t seemingly noticed. Still, I do like to color my surface flies like the naturals. I once fished an all white hair frog and also one with an all white foam body. Caught tons of fish with them. I don’t know, I just liked the natural colored ones better.

Aidan Curran
11 months ago

I can only speak about my own experiences and in any of the waters I have fished eyes don’t make any difference other than possibly give the angler a bit of confidence in the fly. But I’m going to say the bottom one is the one I prefer. Not because of the eyes but because of the barred tail. Something I do believe in a lot is breaking up solid colours and adding bars can do that really well like as you’ve done with the tail of the bottom fly.

Bill Trublubug
11 months ago

@pubz77 Thanks for your input Aiden. Exactly the sort of comment I was hoping for. Sharing our experiences helps us all to be better fly tyers/fishers.

Bill payne
11 months ago

They are both nice bill, I think sometimes flies tied with eyes are tied for the fisherman not the fish.. I think that there are certain fish that key in on "eyes". I agree with Aidan about confidence, myself I like eyes on large baitfish streamers. I also like the barred Marilou tail, very nice!..😎

Bill Trublubug
11 months ago

Thanks Bill. I really appreciate the sharing of experiences. I wish I could really “control” the experiments I like to do. In lieu of controlled fishing, I go with statistics. The more feedback (from folks like you) I get, the more I come to trust my own conclusions. There are just so many variables to consider especially the differences between species on the “eyes” question. I believe that there are “embellishments” that catch fishermen, not fish. Having “confidence” in a pattern is one of those intangibles that can’t really be measured but which absolutely contribute to success. @troutslayor

Michael hackwith
11 months ago

bottoms up...lol bit of flash!!!..... kinda like peacock herl...idk...but I like the bottom

Bill Trublubug
11 months ago

Thanks for the feedback Michael @mtjhttg Can’t really see it due to the palmered hackle and bushy color but the body is New Age Chenille which has the flash wound into it. Peacock would be a good alternative as you suggest although I was going for the brown/orange combo.

Bill Trublubug
11 months ago

Should read bushy collar not color. Hate hate hate autocorrect.

Bill payne
11 months ago

I have never seen anyone with such a philosophical approach to tying as you bill..you truly are an artist my friend ,using your vice as your canvass!..🎣

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